At the last meeting complaints were brought up regardig the players who finished in the top three of our magic tournament, (well done to those three), these complaints led to the reinstatement of fees for the monthly tournaments. whilst they are not regulars they did pay the £1.50 charge everyone else paid for club that evening, therefore all players paid an equal entry, the idea of these tournaments is to be good fun for everyone, generally social rather than a serious event.
In my opinion the reintroduction of a charge somewhat reduces this atmosphere and takes away the fun of it, which is what the club is all about, the prizes are not expensive that we provide and everyone was happy with the tournament itself, therefore i think we should scrap the idea that charges be replaced on tournaments, Do please post your thoughts on the Matter
Ryan
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While I agree to keeping things friendly, I can see people getting tired pretty quickly if non-members keep turning up to collect the prizes before disappearing again. It's member's nightly fees that pay for those prizes after all. But they can only do that four times:-)
We should, however, be happy to see new players, and hope that they will join the club.
As i see it, that would mean everyone had put in their share and the need for a tournament entry fee is then negligible.
At the end of the day it's just a suggestion and realistically you're never going to please everyone,so the next best thing is to make it as fair to everyone as possible.
( I'm assuming there was a vote, I honestly can't remember but that's usually how we do things. can someone confirm this, perhaps with a count of those in favour for/against if possible please?)
In your OP you indicated that your opinion was, that the fee lessened the overall experience of the event, but I think having someone walk in and take top spot while having paid considerably less to the club as everyone else is simply unfair to those who have attended and paid week after week.
As pointed out in another thread, a certain shopkeeper could easily have turned up ( perhaps with a few few friends) and quite possibly taken all 3 top spots while not having attended for months.
How many people would have been happy then? How happy would everyone be if it happened repeatedly.....?
How happy would people have been had it been someone on a free trial period that won?
Restrictions like an entry fee and/or minimum club attendance, while not ideal ( i did say it was a quick fix) is at least a fairer method to the majority who DO attend regularly and who help the club pay for such events.
That's just my opinion.
Monday of the tournament week you should have a preliminary round, an event where the top X amount of player get to compete in the main event on the Wednesday night, therefore everyone must be present for the first part to earn a place in the main event??
I hope that makes sense, i'm not very good at getting my point across.
Hmm, interesting idea, but isn't that more or less enforcing the minimum club attendance thing? Also it means people are paying two nights fees for the event, which may or may not be seen as good thing.
I'm more or less flying blind as i have no clue how the card tournaments are played or arranged, just giving everyone a neutral outsiders perspective.
These folk have paid their £10 membership too so have just as much right to attend, don't they?
A minimum attendance and/or fee option for entry would bring everyones contributions in line.
Random example, entrants must attend 2club nights in 3-4 week period, that would mean that everyone taking part had contributed the same and there would be no entry fee. Those that didn't attend could have the option to pay a higher fee ( say randomly...£10) to enter.
This means there's a bit more incentive to attend the club but if you can't make it, there's still a way to enter.
New members are trickier to handle but again the fee to play would probably be fairest all round unless they magically show to sign up on the night of the event in which case I would probably opt to not allow them into the competition.
You put prizes in.
Prizes mean that *someone* will be being competitive. Because they want the prizes.
If you put in your precautions, nothing stops me from coming to take your prizes, because I'm a member. Will you ban me as well?
What if I started lending a powerful deck to one of your players, in exchange for half the prizes. Is that getting him banned too?
You *cannot* feasibly control who enters your tournament. Drop the prizes if you don't want people entering to get them, and play casually, or get a club trophy, which shows who's your monthly champion without giving anything away.
* Tournament budget
It's essentially a choice between casual, free, small prize tournaments and serious, charged, big prize tournaments. While I can't speak for the rest of the committee, I think either format, or even both, are ok for the society. For reference I imagine a ticketed tournament would double (or more) the budget (as costed for the Magic comp), perhaps increasing the prize pool or providing everyone a prize.
* Tournament entry
We can use tournaments to promote to potential new gamers (open to all). The other option is to use them to incentivise membership (members only). Both have benefits. I prefer a members only policy if the tournaments are free to encourage membership and remove potential abuse, but its the members who make the decisions so we can hold another meeting on this subject in the near future.
I believe it was voted on, a few people were noisy which may of meant some people missed the discussion. The secretary should have the minutes available soon. For the record the treasury is not currently recording individuals attendance and is reliant on honesty and memory. As an aside there will be some changes to the treasury in the near future.
This discussion would welcome more input from others, so we have a broad spectrum of opinions and ideas.
While the tournament idea is still in its infancy why not just keep it a casual fun thing as I believe it will encourage more people, who may not be the best player in the world, to enter and give it a try!
Are people that bothered about prizes? is taking part and enjoying playing and promoting the game just as important?
Somebody mentioned not giving away prizes which could work, maybe give them a certificate and then after a few tournaments have a kind of "grand slam" of all the pervious winners and have a prize at the end.
Just a thought:)
Maybe make it standard format as other forms maybe be too one sided for players with the most powerful cards?
Just an idea as I am looking forward to the next tournament:)